Read If at Faust You Don't Succeed by Roger Zelazny Robert Sheckley Online


The last Millennial contest--between the forces  of Good and Evil for control of the  universe--didn't work out quite so well for Evil and its rooters.  But it's time for the next round, and this time  the demon Mephistopheles is carrying the ball for  the forces of Darkness. But all is not as it seems.  The harried archdemon mistakenly signs up a  medieval cutpurse namedThe last Millennial contest--between the forces  of Good and Evil for control of the  universe--didn't work out quite so well for Evil and its rooters.  But it's time for the next round, and this time  the demon Mephistopheles is carrying the ball for  the forces of Darkness. But all is not as it seems.  The harried archdemon mistakenly signs up a  medieval cutpurse named Mack the Club, thinking him the  learned Dr. Faust. The demon Azzie, still  stinging from the Evil's last defeat (and not being  chosen to head the current effort), takes events into  his own claws. And the pious angel Michael--well,  let's just say some of his tactics in the titanic  struggle to come are not quite cricket . . . ....

Title : If at Faust You Don't Succeed
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ISBN : 9780553565485
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Number of Pages : 359 Pages
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If at Faust You Don't Succeed Reviews

  • Alazzar
    2019-03-21 05:25

    I am an enormous Roger Zelazny fan (he’s my favorite author by a HUGE margin), but this was the first book of his I couldn’t finish.In a word, it was terrible.I liked the previous installment in this trilogy, Bring Me the Head of Prince Charming. But the writing in this book was beyond bad. And it’s not Zelazny’s fault.According to volume 6 of The Collected Stories of Roger Zelazny, here’s what happened with Sheckley and Zelazny’s Millenium Trilogy:- For Prince Charming, Zelazny gave Sheckley numerous ideas to choose from. Sheckley selected one, Roger outlined it (using skills he’d learned from Fred Saberhagen while they worked together on Coils), Sheckley wrote a first draft and Roger rewrote it. I liked that book.- For If At Faust You Don’t Succeed, Zelazny and Sheckley went back and forth, trading off the writing duties. Except that Roger learned one day that Sheckley had been rewriting all of his parts.It shows.I’ve read enough Roger Zelazny that I can generally distinguish his voice from a collaborator’s. And I can tell you that, for the first 158 pages of Faust (and potentially beyond that), Roger’s voice never shows up once.Sheckley has a terrible tendency to give you the full historical background of every location or person or object that’s introduced to the reader. If you see a big block of text coming up (i.e., a page-long paragraph), you’ll know something is about to be introduced in unnecessary detail. One of the things I’ve always loved about Zelazny is his ability to pack a strong punch in so very few words—often, it’s the things he leaves out that give you insight into a character or event. But with Sheckley, I get a fucking Wikipedia entry for every stool and lantern in the bar.Had Roger written the book, it probably would have been 100 pages shorter. And twice as good.I mean, there’s definitely some potential there. The premise of a man being put into various historical situations so that a higher power could judge his morality (and thus, the morality of all humanity) on the decisions he makes is pretty interesting. But Faust was an obnoxious, self-absorbed character, and Marguerite was just some tag-along female he treated like crap. Honestly, one of the very few things that made me want to keep reading was the hope that Marguerite was playing him in some way, because if she wasn’t, then her “useless woman” character was just awful and insulting.And don’t get me started on Sheckley’s dialogue. This garbage could be used as a cautionary study in a creative writing course. Sheckley’s characters say things that no normal person would say, all because they need their information transmitted to the reader. It felt like they were talking to me half the time, rather than each other. I’m a little surprised they didn’t address me by name, to be honest.In the end, I’m wildly ashamed of the fact that I wasn’t able to finish a Zelazny book, but at the same time, I don’t really consider this a Zelazny book. It’s trash, and it gets 2 stars only because it could have been decent if Sheckley hadn’t Sheckley’d it up.

  • Книжни Криле
    2019-03-19 10:19

    „Донеси ми главата на принца. Ако с Фауст не успееш. Просто шеметен фарс” на Роджър Зелазни и Робърт Шекли! Три големи романа, от двама големи автора в един голям том в страхотна (и стилна) твърда корица. Какво да ви кажа, когато от издателство „Бард” са решили да кръстят поредицата си „Велики майстори на фентъзи и фантастика” съвсем не са се изхвърлили. А че трилогията „Millennial Contest” си е точно за тук – в това няма никакво съмнение! А шеметен фарс ще получите и то в изобилие. Прочетете ревюто на "Книжни Криле":

  • Ludmila Kovaříková
    2019-03-25 05:16

    Dobro a zlo svádějí boj o to, kdo bude vládnout lidem v dalším tisíciletí a Faust má splnit několik úkolů, na základě nichž se o lidstvu rozhodne. Jenže od začátku je jasné, že švindluje dobro (Michael) i zlo (Mefistofeles), takže si čtenář není jistý, kdo na které straně stojí a komu fandit. Do boje se později zapojují i klasičtí hrdinové. Nakonec je nejsympatičtější hlavní postava - falešný Faust - Mack. Vlastně žádná z postav není vyloženě zlá, trpí svými vlastními problémy (např. trpaslík tím, jak se k němu chovají démoni) a to bývá často zdrojem humorných scének. Několikrát jsem se smála i nahlas. Až později pochopila, že vlastně čtu druhý díl a knihu nenapsal jen Zelazny. A dozvěděla se o několika událostech z dějin, které jsem neznala. (hranice marností) Nepochopila jsem, proč Mefistofeles nakonec Mackovi pomáhal.Faustovský duch = touha pomocí vědění vládnout ostatnímPravda - jen jedno hledisko... vřelost, schopnost vládnout sám sobě, soucit další

  • Eric
    2019-02-25 07:30


  • Thomas
    2019-03-14 08:27

    3.5. Two good writers on a lark. Sone surprising serious points along the way.

  • Lightreads
    2019-03-26 09:14

    A thief takes the place of the selected representative of humanity in a history-hopping contest between heaven and hell for the destiny of humankind.Picked up because I wanted something light and fun. Finished because sometimes my hatred for a book is so strong I have to see it to the bitter, misogynist end to fully grasp its awfulness.Truly terrible. Flabby and unfunny – unpunny? – and, um. Look, I expect a certain amount of misogyny from Zelazny. I mean, don't get me wrong, I dig a lot of his books, but with a few exceptions the dude was not good at conceiving of women as something other than vaginas with legs. But there's that and then there's whatever the hell this is, and what this is is the fuck not okay. At one point a woman character notices all the shit going down and is like, "you realize you're a raging asshole who treats women like objects to be stolen from other men, fucked and then traded for favors with other men, and discarded, right?" And then the book is like, "oh, huh, yeah, I guess. Let's get back to that, though!"Ick. I need to scrub my brain out.

  • Andrew
    2019-02-26 05:08

    Another excellent read by Zelazny. He is one of my favorite authors. This story was very engaging. To being with, it was an entertaining adventure. He knows how to tell a story that moves. He blends a nice mix of history and mythology in the story. The humor in the story is also good. Some of the jokes land with a thud but it is forgiven because they are enough amusing passages to make up for it. If anything, I wish that the authors took more space to develop some of the intriguing sub-characters that were introduced in the story. For example, at one point Odysseus makes a plea for a return to the classical order in life. Having more of Odysseus in the story would have helped would have helped me better understand this point. You can put a classical Greek in a situation and his response to it would be different then a medieval and a modern person. And I would have enjoyed it if the book explored this idea more. The lack of this did not in anyway detract from my enjoyment of the story.

  • melydia
    2019-02-27 06:22

    This is the sequel to Bring Me the Head of Prince Charming, which I read (and enjoyed) at least twenty years ago. However, I recall being unable to get into this book and ultimately giving up on it. I gave it more of a chance this time and read the whole thing, but it never lived up to its predecessor. Honestly, it's a bit boring, and the writing style is uneven. Yes, it was written by two people, but sometimes it seemed like they alternated paragraphs without reading the previous one. The characters from the previous book do make appearances, but they're kind of shoehorned in, to the point where you don't need to have read the first book to follow this one - they don't have a whole lot to do with each other, other than both being about the Millennial Contest (the contest between Good and Evil to decide who gets to rule Earth for the next thousand years). All in all, pretty forgettable.

  • Ivana
    2019-03-02 05:24

    I have a weakness for theology mixed with something else. Sure, this one doesn't have the depth of the Lord of Light, but it is damn funny. It ridicules our concepts of heaven and earth and well of pretty much everything. Faust as an old man who would do anything to eat a normal dinner and get laid again....and an anti-hero that is charming as hell- not a typical Faustian legend. There is no great magician/alchemist/academic searching for truth but something more like most of the academics we know...selfish, egoistic and intelligent I think that this version ruined Goethe's Faust for me, ha ha is not precisely a parody of it, but it does makes fun of it. The Marlow's version will always be the best version for me, Goethe failed to impress me and this one- it is just so much fun.

  • Stuart
    2019-03-11 10:16

    The follow up to BRING ME THE HEAD OF PRINCE CHARMING, this series of books is probably my favorite of all the "Comical" fantasy novels out there, the trilogy being really intended for lit and fantasy geeks everywhere to get a good chuckle out of, but never doing so at the loss of a good story and interesting characters. The cast of figures is huge and as such, not everyone is as developed as you'd like them to be, but returning favorites from the previous book continue to entertain and the new figures, namely Mephistopheles and Mack and Marguerite, hold up well and have some blissfully laught out loud moments (the Kublah Kahn sequence in particular is very memorable). Definitely for people with a strong background in western culture, but for that crowd not one to be missed. Finally, our version of an airplane/beach read.

  • Ubiquitousbastard
    2019-03-22 10:28

    Not as good as the first book, and a little more all over the place. That being said, Zelazny was involved, so obviously it was fun to read. Maybe not as trippy as it could have been, but I wasn't expecting Amber so...that's not too big of an issue. The discussion of morality was pretty good, if a bit like the monologue from Atlas Shrugged (not in content, in spirit). Overall, I liked the characters, not for their personalities, but because they were very detailed and three dimensional. I managed to see some of the twists in the plot coming, but that also isn't that big of a deal for me. Not when I get to read Zelazny, at least.

  • Nathan
    2019-03-09 07:23

    It has a kernal of really good concept surrounded by quite poor writing, silly concepts and a lot of flab. It was clearly written by Zelazny and Sheckley over a couple of afternoons sitting around a table having a few beers. A real mess. Moments of enjoyment, but that's about it. Rated PG. 2/5

  • Ivaylo
    2019-03-14 04:29

    Продължението на "Донеси ми главата на принца" е фарс в същия стил, с много чувство за хумор и невероятни приключения. Единствената причина да не получи по-висока оценка е фактът, че не го чете 15 годишен младеж. Доста брутално е усещането, че си надраснал Р.Зелазни.

  • iffi
    2019-02-26 10:10

    Хареса ми повече от предишната (Донеси ми главата на принца), има повече неща над които може да се помисли и е малко по-сериозна.

  • dVicko
    2019-03-12 06:00

    Funny and witty. The whole Millennium Contest serial is like that. But "Bring me the Head of Prince Charming" was even better for me. ;)

  • Gloria
    2019-03-17 07:29

    I liked Bring Me The Head Of Prince Charming more, but this book is also funny :) But for me the first Millennial Contest was better! But this book... Like it :)

  • Nancy Laney
    2019-03-11 04:26

    Millennial Contests Book 1

  • Zhivomira
    2019-03-23 11:05

    A simplier, less funny version of "A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy".

  • J.M.
    2019-03-05 11:24

    I love farcical fantasy, and this series is great. Very humorous!